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Hi there,guys, I've just dug out my 79/80 Dynasonic which I stopped using about 30 years ago because the snare wires kept breaking (only glued onto the end plates back then and the band were that loud- I did have it set up properly at the time) and were difficult to get hold of. Anyway, things are much tamer these days and I dug it out, cleaned it up and ordered a set of Puresound dyna wires for it. I notice that the end plates of the wires don't sit flush against the basket/cradle and wondered if there should be a spacer or felt there because if I tighten down the 2 screws that attach the wires to the frame, it creates a bow in the snare wires at either end of the frame resulting in the full length of the wires not making contact with the head. Sorry I can't post a picture of this. It's been that long ago, I can't remember if there was anything there. If I just sit the wires in position on the frame without putting in the screws, there is about 1mm gap. Help? I want the drum at it's best.
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If I am understanding you correctly, the wires contact the head in the center of the drum and toward the edge lose contact? Is the shell of the Dynasonic metal or is it a wooden xpemoticon10)shell? The wooden snares from this era were 10ply maple shells also named xp10. There is probably a slight gap because of the snare bed. The snare bed is an of the edge where a millimeter or 2 were remove to allow the snares to sit better on the head.
I hope this makes sense.
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I'm not sure about the gap thing but I will tell you not to over tighten the snares once they are in the snare frame and never use a screw driver to tighten them, finger tighten only!

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Sorry, forgot to say- it's COB 5" serial # D 971567 I know not to over tighten the snare frame thanks- the screw on mine don't have a slot in it anyway. Back in the early 80's, the band I played in were ridiculously loud- glued snare wires didn't last a week!! Anyway, the wires make contact with the drum at the centre, but as they get to the end of the cradle/frame/basket, they are being pulled away from the drum head by the fixing screws at each end of the cradle- my instincts tell me that all of the snare wires up to, and including the soldered area should make contact with the drum. Either the Puresound wires don't fit as well on a mark 4 basket or there needs to be some kind of spacer between the basket and the snare wire end plates (where the fixing holes are) to take up the 1 mm gap otherwise the snare plates are pulled down over the ridge on the basket and causes the snares to bow away from the drum head as the fixing screws are tightened.
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I wonder if you have a warped frame???? COB Dyna's have no snare bed. I played with some very loud rock bands and never broke a snare wire after I learned not to overtighten the snares in the frame.

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The COB shells do have a snare bed but it is very very slight. Jack might be on to something about your snare frame. Put the snare side of the frame on a flat surface and see if it sits flat. there is a post on this forum somewhere that talks about a procedure to attach felt to the snare frame to the section that supports the soldered portion of the end plate for the snares. I believe the post was by Longroll. A very knowledge chap about Rogers drums and Dynasonics.
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Kevin, your reply seems that it is heading in the right direction- if someone can direct me to the post by Longroll about felt on the snare frame where the ends of the snare plate sit: or can anyone else confirm that there is some felt on their frame where the snare wire end plates are screwed down?
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That is an aftermarket fix, it wasn't offered by Rogers on the Dyna-Sonics.

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I have had original frames with the wires leveled by a strip of felt.






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Ginger Rogers wrote:

Hi there,guys, I've just dug out my 79/80 Dynasonic which I stopped using about 30 years ago because the snare wires kept breaking (only glued onto the end plates back then and the band were that loud- I did have it set up properly at the time) and were difficult to get hold of. Anyway, things are much tamer these days and I dug it out, cleaned it up and ordered a set of Puresound dyna wires for it. I notice that the end plates of the wires don't sit flush against the basket/cradle and wondered if there should be a spacer or felt there because if I tighten down the 2 screws that attach the wires to the frame, it creates a bow in the snare wires at either end of the frame resulting in the full length of the wires not making contact with the head.

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Sorry I can't post a picture of this. It's been that long ago, I can't remember if there was anything there. If I just sit the wires in position on the frame without putting in the screws, there is about 1mm gap. Help? I want the drum at it's best.


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