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New Stuff - Bass Drum techniques


When I got my first drum set in '63 or so I somehow acquired a used Ludwig Speedking. When I got my new Rogers drums in '71 I asked to have the Rogers pedals swapped with a pair of Speedkings and have been using them ever since. Two of those pedals are still work OK with occasional cleaning and lubing but recently I decided to try some of the new stuff on the market, plus I wanted to get a double bass pedal set up. After my hi-hat stand fell apart I treated myself to a DW 3000 two legged stand which has proven to be very nice. Last week I got a DW 3000 double bass (single drum) set of pedals. First I noticed how incredibly smooth and light it felt. Then I noticed it isn’t as easy as I thought it would be to start adding double bass stuff to my playing (well, I wasn’t really that surprised . . .)
 
What did we do before YouTube? This morning I started looking around and my first hit was Bass Drum Speed Techniques – Drum Lessons Live. This is a little different from what I was looking for but the first thing I got was a link to their web site ([sign in to see URL]). On that site their first free lesson is the heal-toe technique. The reason I thought it was cool – I attended a drum clinic in Portland, OR back in the mid ‘80’s put on by Billy Cobham and he talked about the heal-toe technique and somehow I thought it was a way to get a stroke by hitting the pedal with your heal. I could never get it to work so basically forgot about it. Eureka! On this site I was shown a way (not the only way I’m sure) to make it work. Since I’m now at work I’ve been slowly doing it on the floor and I can’t wait ‘til Monday (the next time I’ll be able to sit behind my practice set) to try it using the pedals.
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I first started heel-and-toeing with my Ghost pedal in the 70s. The only pedals I found to be worthy of this action are the Ghost, Speed King and Trick Pro 1V Detonator, which is currently the pedal I swear by.
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JoJo Maher(I think that it how it is spelled) is the best guy I ever saw to do it. I believe he does go over it in one of his videos. He is a monster. The Rogers solid swivo pedal is good for that technique also. I wondered if Buddy Rich used heel to toe and that is why he used that pedal even when he was playing Slingerland drums.
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so what is the secret to the technique ?
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On the web site - [sign in to see URL] - they show one way to do it. I'm sure there are other ways but this one is broken down and shown at slow speed. There are a number of clips on Youtube also.

Well, I went to the web site I put here, but it is a marketing site. On YouTube - search on heel-toe technique; Jared Falk. Derrick Pope also has some stuff. Darrick also has some interesting videos about the Moeller technique.

This is the first one I came across that got me going - [url][sign in to see URL]


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On Jared's videos he shows the way he does the heel-toe it doesn't matter what type of pedal you use, or what type of shoe you're wearing.
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ah [sign in to see URL] my Dear [sign in to see URL] video made it quite [sign in to see URL] always used the ball of my foot for both strokes, heal [sign in to see URL] need to start practicing this method...
thanks for the link...
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