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New Stuff - Bass Drum techniques


When I got my first drum set in '63 or so I somehow acquired a used Ludwig Speedking. When I got my new Rogers drums in '71 I asked to have the Rogers pedals swapped with a pair of Speedkings and have been using them ever since. Two of those pedals are still work OK with occasional cleaning and lubing but recently I decided to try some of the new stuff on the market, plus I wanted to get a double bass pedal set up. After my hi-hat stand fell apart I treated myself to a DW 3000 two legged stand which has proven to be very nice. Last week I got a DW 3000 double bass (single drum) set of pedals. First I noticed how incredibly smooth and light it felt. Then I noticed it isn’t as easy as I thought it would be to start adding double bass stuff to my playing (well, I wasn’t really that surprised . . .)
 
What did we do before YouTube? This morning I started looking around and my first hit was Bass Drum Speed Techniques – Drum Lessons Live. This is a little different from what I was looking for but the first thing I got was a link to their web site (www.bassdrumsecrets.com). On that site their first free lesson is the heal-toe technique. The reason I thought it was cool – I attended a drum clinic in Portland, OR back in the mid ‘80’s put on by Billy Cobham and he talked about the heal-toe technique and somehow I thought it was a way to get a stroke by hitting the pedal with your heal. I could never get it to work so basically forgot about it. Eureka! On this site I was shown a way (not the only way I’m sure) to make it work. Since I’m now at work I’ve been slowly doing it on the floor and I can’t wait ‘til Monday (the next time I’ll be able to sit behind my practice set) to try it using the pedals.
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I first started heel-and-toeing with my Ghost pedal in the 70s. The only pedals I found to be worthy of this action are the Ghost, Speed King and Trick Pro 1V Detonator, which is currently the pedal I swear by.
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JoJo Maher(I think that it how it is spelled) is the best guy I ever saw to do it. I believe he does go over it in one of his videos. He is a monster. The Rogers solid swivo pedal is good for that technique also. I wondered if Buddy Rich used heel to toe and that is why he used that pedal even when he was playing Slingerland drums.
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so what is the secret to the technique ?
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On the web site - www.bassdrumsecrets.com - they show one way to do it. I'm sure there are other ways but this one is broken down and shown at slow speed. There are a number of clips on Youtube also.

Well, I went to the web site I put here, but it is a marketing site. On YouTube - search on heel-toe technique; Jared Falk. Derrick Pope also has some stuff. Darrick also has some interesting videos about the Moeller technique.

This is the first one I came across that got me going - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMGCT-J-_N0


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On Jared's videos he shows the way he does the heel-toe it doesn't matter what type of pedal you use, or what type of shoe you're wearing.
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ah ha.......elementary my Dear Watson......that video made it quite simple....I always used the ball of my foot for both strokes, heal up.....I need to start practicing this method...
thanks for the link...
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