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The pirate script badge explained 59r/60r catalogs


Discovery? I was browsing the information pages on the Rogers catalogs {59r and 60r}. I just wanted to let you know that the 59r and 60r catalogs are different. On the drum experts page {vintage drum guide} They show the 60r catalog as being a 59r {same pic twice}. The 59R catalog is blue and did not offer the ripples until the 60r catalog. This is strange, as the cover shows a sky blue ripple set {shows a double tom set} lol. There was also no really big names as endorsers either {just Ricky Nelson who I believe did not even play drums?}. The 59r is a very rare catalog too {IMHO}. The 59r had the 1st version pirate badge as well {different than the 60 version and also the 61 script badge that was eventually used}. This {59r} was also the catalog that introduced swivomatic! I hope this helps. Rogersoholic

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I believe the Swivos were introduced in 1958. I'll search for some verification, but I believe I got the info from GaryN.
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Re: The pirate script badge explained 59r/60r catalogs


To my knowledge there is no 58 catalog...

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Is there a name for the logo in red used on the front of the 60R catalogue? This is the one that English Rogers used with an underscore. Would just be nice to know what to call it. Thanks.
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Its pirate type 2. I dont know where that came from. I got it from Garys submission on the Vintage drum forum.

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Thanks Rogerso', and why do they call these "pirate"? Sorry I'm subverting your thread. emoticon
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Nut Box wrote:

Thanks Rogerso', and why do they call these "pirate"? Sorry I'm subverting your thread. emoticon



The first "pirate" badge has an "R" that looks "jolly rogers"-ish, hence the slang nickname. The 2nd (yours) was also deemed "pirate" because it followed the first for a short time before the now-famous script badge appeared.
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The 59R catalog is from 1958. Darn right each is different. Only the first 2 Swivo catalogs mentioned offer the Wonderbar! Growth and option changes dated and shown in print. Special books that help explain the drums we all have. The pages on the drum guide site are off on the color swatch page years. I only helped with the 1938-54 submitted there. Then helped a bit on the badges from the start in the badge section. The 1938-54 needs to be corrected as well.

The cover set on the 1958 (Catalog No.59R) is white marine pearl. No ripple lines. Ice cubes floating in milk marine pattern. See other thread a few down from this on need a date. Yes the ripples were first offered in the next year 1959 catalog (Catalog60R). Expansion/growth more choices...

Pre Swivo 54-57 there were marching bands shown all decked out with Rogers. Expansion shown through markets in pictures in those old catalogs. The need for famous folk came about with the Swivo intro. That new 10 lug snare pulled in the big fish a few years later.

Peace, Gary

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1958 date at bottom. Classic endorser pics in this catalog. Plastic heads now standard. I think in 57 too on the plastic. Gonna go check on that. Peace, Gary

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Yer prolly right Gary. It does look blue tho. Ive never seen a mount located in the position where the second tom drum is either on that cover. I saw a snare last week on DFO w/ an Eagle badge Holiday and large lugs, wide rerings, gray interior and used a clockface throw. Never saw that before. Dating guide put it at 60/61 so maybe they just kept using what they had for logos and introduced other new parts as they went along. Its fun seeing this stuff and learning bout it.

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