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1950 and 1953 Rogers snare page


This snare page can be found in the Grossman Music counter catalogs in both 1950 and 1953. If you have the Rogers Book (2nd ed)see page 123 for the bottom "Goodwill Model" throw off. Mr. Grossman sold this Farmingdale NJ model name with Mr. Thompsons experimental new OH lug designs and throw off. The Goodwill Model was the same 1940s R lug snare I restored last year and my friend Jesse L. painted it polo white. I wanted it to match the 1940/41 picture from the NJ catalog.

So in OH the line started with the top snare as the Goodwill(respect to Cleveland Rogers- NJ). Offered in pearl, paint or mahogany. Then in 54 the Broadway Model came into play. To expand the 8 lug line the Broadway was only offered in Duco. The fancy pearl model was called the Holiday in 1954/55. The OH snare line was set and later to follow in 61 was a metal Holiday and wood model. Oh yeah...that Dynasonic in 61 topped the OH line up to the best drum company in the world out of that small building Powertone posted pictures of earlier.
 
The "Special Model" up top is where those odd 6 lug metal specials came from. The second one that I know of surfaced last year. Had an interior paper tag with serial number O 3126. Another mystery now found in print.

The "thing" that I like the most from this NJ to OH transition drum page is the R lug Utility snare in the middle. Still need to see a 1940s Grossman catalog. Wouldn't shock me to see the R lug snare line because he was selling Rogers calf heads in there from the 1920s on. The Gretsch metal Rogers snare shell came into play in 1938 NJ and continued through OH 1961. I believe Mr. Grossman used a lot of the NJ Rogers line at first, model names and shape of wooden war lugs, to show that he would carry on the great Rogers family name for Cleveland Rogers in the late 40s. Before he passed the company name to him in 1952 upon Clevelands passing. Grossman catalog 50 was copyrighted in 1949. So..that would mean Mr. Thompson, who was already working with Mr. Grossman selling his mouth piece puller, flutophone, etc. had the popsickle stick Orchestra throw off in shed/office production around then. It is found in the parts page, aside from the top special snare throw off, called "Orchestra Snare Strainer." I've only seen about 8-10 of that throw off design on drums to surface with the stick no tapered arm.

 The boxy clam shell drawn on the Goodwill was not offered in the parts section so I don't know the official name for that one. Might of been only 2 or 3 made because it looks hand made and a bit inconsistent on the 2 I found so far. You can see some of these early start up models in the following link. If you go to the history section up top and click on 52/53 and 53/54. I will update the web site in a week or 2. You've seen it here first! Enjoy this rare snare page! Peace, Gary



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Gary...speechless. As usual, the first place concours awards go to you. Bravo for your diligent research and collection of museum pieces.
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Great information. Shows the interesting evolution of Rogers. Now that's research! Thanks Gary.
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Thanks guys!

Dan, The Farmingdale drum building used to be at the corner of Route 524 and Squankum Yellowbrook Road as per local Jesse Lejeune. See the Farmingdale section in this rof for pictures from July last year.

 Cleveland Rogers home, 50 Academy, was recently restored when I was there and under contract to be sold. The flipper did a very nice job with the restoration. When I pushed my big nose up to the glass I saw the original hard wood flooring back in action for a few more years. Peace, Gary
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