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1981 - XP10 Snare Tooling


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Would like to know what's going on here...
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I agree, please give a little description on how this is used.
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Looks like a double exposure, John C. I can see a sailboat in the horizon!
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quote:

tommykat1 wrote:

Looks like a double exposure, John C. I can see a sailboat in the horizon!



Talk about a good eye tommykat - I hadn't noticed that until you mentioned it . . .
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This obviously is a RARE photo of the FULL FLOATING snare prototype. It was to be the end-all to humidity issues,but alas,corporate penny pinchers SANK the project.
Sorry guys,I could go on. But I won't. Unless you want me to. Thank you folks,I'll be here all week. Make sure you tip your servers... emoticon emoticon emoticon emoticon
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Please do - I for one would be interested.
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Yes Rogerw
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1981 - XP10 Snare Tooling


You guys are funny.
This is a weird double exposure captured the only known photo of 1981 tooling for Rogers wood snare drums.
(For the younger guys who grew up only knowing digital cameras, this picture was not Photoshop'd. Back in the olden days we used cameras that required film, and if the film didn't advanced to the next frame like it was supposed to, you'd end up taking two pictures in the same frame creating a double exposure like this one. Ordinarily, you'd throw a picture like that away. Luckily, I kept this one.)

The tooling was cleverly designed to make either 5x14 & 6-1/2x14 drums. Notice there's a wood disk with a red stripe laying inside. That would elevate a 5x14 shell to the correct height so that the lug holes would centered. Take the disk out, drop in a 6-1/2" shell, and those lug holes would be centered.

The tool was constructed of birch plywood. The precision metal sleeves for each hole are called drill bushings.
Over the number 8 you see a metal pin on a chain. This would be inserted in the first hole you drill to lock the shell in place while you drill the rest of the holes. There was also one on the other side.
The nut driver laying on the number 3 was used to remove one of the modules. I think we may have had to flip one of the modules depending on the shell height, but it's a struggle to remember that particular detail.
You can tell that the base is two pieces. That's because the tool was on a turntable. You'd stand in one spot and spin it around as you drilled.

Drilling wood shells by hand required a bit of finesse. First, you had to start out with a drill bit that is specially made for drilling precision holes in hardwood, and it had to be sharp. Even if you were properly equipped, if you pushed too hard you would splinter the area around the hole on the inside of the shell, basically tearing away chunks of the inside ply. Drilling slow would take too long to finish the job. So it was a skill to know exactly when to back off on the drill pressure so as come out of the other side clean with no splintering.

OK, everyone can go start their own drum company now.

- John Cermenaro


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John, I can't begin to tell you how interesting this information is and how much we appreciate you taking the time for a bunch of Rogers nuts like us.

Jack
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