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The roll pyramid


This is a great idea to honor the memory of Longroll

Here is one practice idea that one of my teachers (Kay Carlson) gave me. She said it orginated from Louis Bellson.

This excersise is called the "roll pyramid" and focuses on getting the double stroke rolls up to snuff.

Increasing:
5 stroke rrllr llrrl rrllr llrrl
7 stroke rrllrrl rrllrrl rrllrrl rrllrrl
9 stroke rrllrrllr llrrllrrl rrllrrllr llrrllrrl
11 stroke rrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrl
13 stroke rrllrrllrrllr llrrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrllr llrrllrrllrrl
15 stroke rrllrrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrllrrl
17 stroke rrllrrllrrllrrllr llrrllrrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrllrrllr llrrllrrllrrllrrl

Decreasing
17 stroke rrllrrllrrllrrllr llrrllrrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrllrrllr llrrllrrllrrllrrl
15 stroke rrllrrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrllrrl
13 stroke rrllrrllrrllr llrrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrllr llrrllrrllrrl
11 stroke rrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrl rrllrrllrrl
9 stroke rrllrrllr llrrllrrl rrllrrllr
7 stroke rrllrrl rrllrrl rrllrrl rrllrrl
5 stroke rrllr llrrl rrllr llrrl

The idea is to play these rolls continuously in rapid succession in the increasing direction then the decreasing direction, four rolls of each type before going to the next level. The 7, 13 and 15 rolls all start with the right, while the 5, 9, 11 and 17 are alternating hand-to-hand staring with the right. This is done to keep the larger hand motions alternating. The rolls are played "out of ryhthm," just one after the other for example

rrllr llrrl rrllr llrrl rrllrrl rrllrrl rrllrrl rrllrrl rrllrrllr llrrllrrl rrllrrllr llrrllrrl etc.

Also this whole excersise should be played starting with the left. First play the increasing sequence then immediately play the decreasing sequence without any pause. Keep repeating up and down for 5 minutes (I like the egg timer idea!! I am getting one of those!)

This will sharpen up your double stroke rolls, and after a while you will be able to distinguishe the sound of each one. You will be able to play each roll type without counting them out.

Hope you enjoy this excersise!

John

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Longroll for Longroll. emoticon emoticon

Nice, John. Very nice.

Very nice, very great idea.
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Thanks John. phil
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i need to print this [sign in to see URL] stuff.
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that great John. funny but i have a differnt version that is called The Pyramid of Pain" that was handed down to me from an old drum teacher supposedly via Virgil Donati.. but i like your version heaps


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Do you put the accents in? or just all un-accented?
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I was shown this technique many years ago and it really served me well. With practice, the sound and the feel take over and it's natural to "plug in" the right roll for whatever you're playing. I've also found that after getting proficient with these exercise, adding accents comes pretty easy. Good stuff!
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