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Hi everyone,
 I am new here and found this forum while I was looking around on google trying to figure out the date of my Rogers kit. I picked it up about a year and a half ago for 400 dollars. It is a Power Tone model (Two words) Serial Number: 25625 Made in Fullerton California. It is the Koa wrap with the speckled gray interior. I really wanted to know what year it is from, I know it is around the early 70's, and I was also looking to see if anyone had any other information about it like what kind of shells. I did read about Rogers doing the 5 ply on Powertones in the 60s while in Ohio with maple/poplar/maple/poplar/maple, could that be what mine are too? Thanks for the help.
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The filler wasn't poplar.

Birch. MBMBM.. for the five ply.

Catalog lists the 9/72 drums as three ply

It was believed for a long time to be poplar. Untill someone figured out non of the wood had poplar coloring. And ... well someone finally asked the man who built all those drum shells.

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That kit is probably from 1971-72

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Thanks for the info, did they carry the MBMBM shells over into the 70s? And I don't believe my kit is a 9/72 it doesn't say it on any of the tags. But it doesn't sound off that the shells could be MBMBM, they sound so beautiful.
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The '9/72' tags are totally different than the tags you have on there.
Your tags are larger than a business card, and have some good stuff on them: Rogers, Power Tone, etc.

The 9/72 tags are small like a postage stamp, and only have the serial number, and '9/72' on them. These tags were used from late in 1972 thru 1975 (during this time, the '9/72' on the tag did not change) until the Big R tags came along on the Memriloc drums.

Rogers moved to Fullerton in 1969, and used tags like yours until that time in 1972 when they switched to the little tags.

The Fullerton tags did change somewhat during that 69-72 period, and I believe yours are from 71-72 as I posted above.

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Hello.

Just signed up. Love reading all this. I looked for but could not find a valid link to download a serial/date guide. I have a Dynasonic sweet sounding snare I've kept in killer shape for a ong time. I'd sure like to know when and where it was made. Ser# 13943
Sorry if it was posted somewhere and I didn't have time to find it.

DW

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Dayton era, 1968, Covington Ohio.

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Recently picked up a 14x5 Powertone Snare.

Tag inside shell reads:

17682

Cleveland, OH

Previous owner says they bought it new in 1964. The serial number is later than that according to one dating guide I've seen but also Cleveland stopped after 64 - is that right?

I'm only really interested for my own fascination.
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Cleveland tags stopped later 66. perhaps early 67. The drum is not a 64

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Newbie here.. lucked into a really nice Holiday kit on Craigslist, picked up yesterday. 20" kick, 12" tom, 16" floor, 14x5" Powertone wood. All blue sparkle and in excellent condition. I bought from the original owner, he gave me the receipt of sale from March 1966.

I suspect from what I've read that there is less mystery around the dates of this particular kit. But, on the link below, if the years are correctly attributed to these catalogs, the Holiday only shows up in the 1957 catalog. Do we know how long they produced the various outfits?

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I don't know if it's coincidence but from the bill of sale it appears this guy and his dad payed exactly what the catalog shows here - $415. From the handwritten itemization that accompanies the receipt, that price seems to have included hardware and cymbals. I only purchased the 4 drums.

The floor tom is the only drum I've opened up so far (has original Rogers top head). The tag shows Holiday, Cleveland, serial # 48121. I gather the serials are not super helpful. Mostly just curious as to whether this kit was built prior to '65 or '66.

Best regards

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